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  Kingdom Hall in Chile has National flag!!

  by wolfman85 in

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  in the spanish website extj one forum user shows evidence that on the 18th and 19th of september in chile the government calls to honor the nation displaying the national flag everywhere.

  failure to do so is liable to a fine.

  you can see the photos here: http://www.extj.com/showthread.php?23799-celebracion-de-la-patria-y-la-doble-moral-de-los-tjs-auspiciado-por-la-watch-tower/page2.

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  What 3rdgen said... they'll simply say that this didn't come from the WT and that "Summ Brutherz" ran ahead of the organization...

  This guy "Summ Brutherz" is really notorious... he seems to be running ahead of the Society in every country so far.
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  What is the watchtowers policy on harbouring illegal immigrants

  by hoser in

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  2. friends

  i just read an opening post by el_ guapo about a one-eyed blind illegal immigrant that was staying at jw's houses because she couldn't find any work.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/262454/1/news-that-tugged-at-my-heart-strings.

  aren't there laws against harbouring illegals?.

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  The long standing policy has always been "don't ask, don't tell"... same policy as harbouring pedophiles...

  However, if you are an illegal immigrant, there are a few ground rules...

  For example... you are allowed to go to Field Circus, be a microphone holder, build Kingdom Halls, participate in meetings and even give #3 and #4 talks. You might even receive the great honor of being allowed to touch the control knobs on a Kingdumb Hall sound amplifier and mixer.

  However, you may not be a Mini-Stereo Servant or Elder and you may certainly not hold the title of "PioSneer" no matter how many hours you report.

  That said, if you're an illegal immigrant in good standing with the Watchtower Corporation, you will be the first to enter into the new system...
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  What's Your FAVORITE Type of Music???

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i love r&b, soul, disco, and some classic rock.

  one of my favorire songs is by al green, "let's stay together"......what do you like??

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  TECHNO...

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4MQm2oKnVM
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  Questions From Readers.... MiracleWheat.... need pdf Newspaper articles...

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  does anyone have any old newspapaer articles in pdf format that cover the miracle wheat scandal?i'd like to debunk this qfr that was sent to me by an active jw after i brought up this scandal to him recently.... watchtower may 15, 1953 page 319:.

  questionsfromreaders.

  are the charges in a tract against jehovahs witnesses true that the societys first president was immoral, profiteered from selling some mysteriously named wheat at $65 a bushel, and committed perjury when asked in court if he could read greek?

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  Thanks Diamondiz!!!
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  Questions From Readers.... MiracleWheat.... need pdf Newspaper articles...

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  does anyone have any old newspapaer articles in pdf format that cover the miracle wheat scandal?i'd like to debunk this qfr that was sent to me by an active jw after i brought up this scandal to him recently.... watchtower may 15, 1953 page 319:.

  questionsfromreaders.

  are the charges in a tract against jehovahs witnesses true that the societys first president was immoral, profiteered from selling some mysteriously named wheat at $65 a bushel, and committed perjury when asked in court if he could read greek?

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  Does anyone have any old newspapaer articles in pdf format that cover the Miracle Wheat scandal?

  I'd like to debunk this QFR that was sent to me by an active JW after I brought up this scandal to him recently...

  Watchtower May 15, 1953 page 319:

  QuestionsFromReaders

  ?ArethechargesinatractagainstJehovah’switnessestruethattheSociety’sfirstpresidentwasimmoral,profiteeredfromsellingsomemysteriouslynamedwheatat$65abushel,andcommittedperjurywhenaskedincourtifhecouldreadGreek?—C.W.,NorthCarolina.

  No. They were deliberate falsehoods. No immoral action was ever proved against the Watchtower Society’s first president, Charles Taze Russell. In a suit for separate maintenance Mrs. Russell’s attorney said, “We make no charge of adultery”; and Mrs. Russell, who went to all ends to discredit her husband (her main objection was that he would not let her control the Watchtower magazine’s policy), specifically said she did not accuse him of immorality. When critics who did not know him thought they could take portions of the trial and malign his good name, he swore: “I never was guilty of immorality toward any person. . . . Further, I have never desired to do so.” Those who knew him personally highly respected his integrity. J. F. Rutherford, one who was sufficiently convinced of the importance of the Christian work Brother Russell did to likewise devote his life and funds to it, and who succeeded Russell as the Society’s president, said at Russell’s funeral: “Truly it can be said that Pastor Russell’s character was and is without blemish.”

  The facts about “Miracle Wheat” are equally perverted. Brother Russell was interested in anything related to the Scriptural prediction that the desert would blossom as a rose and the earth yield her increase. So, when the public press reported a new and unusual strain of wheat, called “Miracle Wheat” by its original grower, Brother Russell reported this in TheWatchtower, along with a government report on it. Some Watchtower readers contacted the grower, who was in no way connected with the Watchtower Society, and purchased some of the wheat. When theirs produced seed they offered it as a contribution to the Society. The original grower sold the seed at $1.25 a pound, so they suggested their contribution be priced at $1.00, and all the money received be given to the Society. The Society made no claim for the wheat on its own knowledge, though it won several State Fair grand prizes before it wore itself out. Brother Russell neither named it nor profited from it; the money went as a donation into Christian missionary work. When others criticized this sale, all who had contributed were told that if they were dissatisfied their money would be returned, and the money was held for a year for this purpose. Not a single person requested it back. The only critics were those who had no real knowledge of the matter, which was purely a donation sale for the benefit of the Society—as open and aboveboard as a church cake sale.

  The “perjury” charge was not made in court, but in a tract written later by an irresponsible slanderer against whom Brother Russell had brought a libel case. The official record of the case in question (Police Court of the City of Hamilton, Ontario, March 17, 1913) says: “Q. You don’t profess, then, to be schooled in the Latin language? A. No, sir. Q. Or in Greek? A. No, sir.” After this he was asked if he knew individual Greek letters, and it was over this that the question of his knowledge of Greek arose. This false “perjury” claim has been repeated by many who never went to this Canadian city to check this old court record to see if they are spreading truth or a lie. Not only has the question they “quote” been reworded, but Brother Russell had specifically said that he did not know Greek.

  The extent to which critics will deliberately falsify such quotations is shown in another tract that says Jehovah’s witnesses deny the ransom and tries to support this with a quotation from Volume 5, page 127, of the StudiesintheScriptures: “Jesus’ suffering would not pay the debt of sin.” Here is what the book actually says: “True, the wages of sin was not suffering, but death; and hence suffering on our Lord’s part would notalone pay the wages of sin for us: it was absolutely necessary that he should ‘tastedeath for every man.’” The book says exactly the opposite of what the tract claims it says.

  With such lies and perverted facts the critics condemn themselves. They would not like to be classed with the ultramodernists who accuse Jesus of being illegitimate, but they stoop equally low regarding other men whose lives were spent unselfishly in God’s service.
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  Public Talk Outline No. 187 (2014 special talk)

  by pixel in

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  2. beliefs

  you read it here first:.

  why would a loving god permit wickedness?.

  note to the speaker:.

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  Awesome... Thanks!!!
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  The Finished Mistery 1917 scanned pdf ?

  by trackregister99 in

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  2. bible

  hello.

  i wanting the scanned pdf of the finished mistery but the first edition from 1917. i found only the text version.

  but i want the scanned.

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  Trackregister99

  Not fake... here's what happened in a nut shell...

  Pages 247 through 254 of this book pissed off the US Government and several prominent church leaders. These pages basically talked trash about the US Government, the military and the churches of christendom. Word eventually got to Rutherford that he was in deep shit because of this and was even in danger of being arrested for sedition. So in a cowarly attempt to avoid jail time, he had these pages removed in the 2nd edition in 1918. But the government was not satisfied with this and threw his ass in jail anyway... that's the gist of it.
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  Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .

  and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..

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  Carl Olof Jonsson (not sure if I spelled that correctly)...

  Anyway, the only thing that was keeping me in was that the Watchtower got 1914 right...

  Once I read Carl's book, I was outta there...

  (I then read CoC and ISCF, but I was already convinced by Carl's book)
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  Do you believe God is using the governing body to lead his organization?

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  were familiar with the statements about how a persons claim to be anointed is between that god and the individual.. the governing body went on to say: "a number of factorsincluding past religious beliefs or even mental or emotional imbalancemight cause some to assume mistakenly that they have the heavenly calling.

  we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.

  the governing body does not keep a list of all partakers, for it does not maintain a global network of anointed ones.

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  Excellent point which will definitely come in handy one day... Thanks!
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  Former Elder Michael J Norris IN CUSTODY

  by Tylinbrando in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  fbi and santa barbara agents arrested michael at the airport.

  he is locked up in santa barbara county jail.

  he awaits bail hearing and i intend on presenting evidence to revoke his $250,000.00 bail.. thanks to everyone for your encouragement and support!.

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  Tylinbrando... what's the latest?